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Hankook Optimo 727 Tires

Post by 2008SEL » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:21 pm

I put a set of 225/60/17 Handkook Optimo 727 tires on my 2008 Taurus SEL, and it completely changed the personality of the car. The car rides much smoother, quieter and feels like it can accelerate faster than before. I had crappy Goodyear Integrity size 215/65/17, they were good in snow, but really rough and noisy on the road.
I wanted to put 235/55/17, but the Handkook Optimo 727 does not come in that size. The sidewall is taller than I would like, but the ride is pretty amazing.
Just a recommendation to those who need to replace their tires.
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Re: Tires

Post by redlawyers » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:07 pm

Thanks for the tip!

From my perspective, Ford put 215s on the Taurus to save on rolling resistance. A car this size needs some decent meat on all four wheels.
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Re: Tires

Post by BoB/335 » Mon May 17, 2010 6:25 am

It's been a long time since I've been to this site. I did a lot of reading when shopping for a 500 back in 2005-06 and then again when I finally took the plunge for a 2008 Taurus in Sept of '07. Over 2 years and 41,000 miles and so far the only problem were the heated seats (which from reading here this morning seems to have been an "epidemic"..)

So I need new tires. I remember a lot of talk when I first bought this car of how noisy the Conti's were but I was lucky to be able to afford the car at that time and had to make do with the stock tires. So what should I now buy?
The stock tires were P215/60R17
Above I see a few different sizes being substituted.
What brand will give me a smooth, quiet, ride without killing my bank account?
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Re: Tires

Post by ctrlraven » Mon May 17, 2010 10:23 am

I have the same tires just 225/50-18 size, they have performed great so far in the first 4500 miles I've put on them.
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Re: Tires

Post by BoB/335 » Mon May 17, 2010 11:10 am

ctrlraven wrote:I have the same tires just 225/50-18 size, they have performed great so far in the first 4500 miles I've put on them.

The same tires as what?

How did you choose what tires to get?
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Re: Tires

Post by andysinnh » Mon May 17, 2010 11:56 am

BoB/335 wrote:
ctrlraven wrote:I have the same tires just 225/50-18 size, they have performed great so far in the first 4500 miles I've put on them.

The same tires as what?

How did you choose what tires to get?
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Hankook Optimo H727. They were highly rated by Consumer reports last year, and are at a good price point. In my case, I replaced the factory Pirelli P6's on the wife's Freestyle with Michelin Primacy MXV4's about 15k miles ago, and can't be happier. Yes, they're on the higher-end price wise, but after 15k miles they're showing virtually no wear at all, and the god-awful feathering the Pirelli's had going on hasn't occured at all on the Michelins. They're the quietest tire I've ever driven on and handle great!

Just so you can compare - my montego still has the factory Pirelli P6's on the car - and going from the Freestyle to the Montego is like night and day. I could swear I'm runnin mudder tires on the Montego - they're that loud. Counting the days until my wallet and "rational logic" can justify replacing them as well!

The Hankooks have a decent reputation, but not a lot of experience by users driving on them since they're very new...

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Post by BoB/335 » Mon May 17, 2010 5:34 pm

Thanks Andy!!! I was all set to go for Pirelli P4's? Are they any better than the P6's???

What size Michelins? I don't think they make a P215/60/R17 in the Primacy.
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Re: Tires

Post by ctrlraven » Mon May 17, 2010 5:53 pm

BoB/335 wrote:
ctrlraven wrote:I have the same tires just 225/50-18 size, they have performed great so far in the first 4500 miles I've put on them.

The same tires as what?

How did you choose what tires to get?
andysinnh was correct on referring to the having the same Hankook Optimo H727 tires as you . I didn't get to pick mine, that's just what the dealer happen to put on the car before I bought it.
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Post by mercuryman3800 » Mon May 17, 2010 6:31 pm

BoB/335 wrote:Thanks Andy!!! I was all set to go for Pirelli P4's? Are they any better than the P6's???

What size Michelins? I don't think they make a P215/60/R17 in the Primacy.
P4s are noisy junk as well. I keep getting the 4 and the 6 mixed up but one type was on our Focus and the other is on the 08 Sable. They both are bad tires from what I have experienced and read.
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Post by BoB/335 » Tue May 18, 2010 7:15 am

BoB/335 wrote:Thanks Andy!!! I was all set to go for Pirelli P4's? Are they any better than the P6's???

What size Michelins? I don't think they make a P215/60/R17 in the Primacy.

I was just on a chart of sizes for the Primacy. They have nothing with a 60 in a 17"tire. What will a 55 do? I see P215/55/17 and P225/55/17. Is the middle number the rubber from the rim to the outside of the tire and how much smaller is that really?
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Re: Tires

Post by ctrlraven » Tue May 18, 2010 8:53 am

BoB/335 wrote:
BoB/335 wrote:Thanks Andy!!! I was all set to go for Pirelli P4's? Are they any better than the P6's???

What size Michelins? I don't think they make a P215/60/R17 in the Primacy.

I was just on a chart of sizes for the Primacy. They have nothing with a 60 in a 17"tire. What will a 55 do? I see P215/55/17 and P225/55/17. Is the middle number the rubber from the rim to the outside of the tire and how much smaller is that really?
This will explain it all for you.
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/howto/ ... ticle.html

Example: 205/55R 16 89V explained
205
The first number in this series refers to the tire's section width, or distance from sidewall edge to sidewall edge (in millimeters) when measured up and over the tire's tread. Generally speaking, the larger this number is, the taller and/or wider the tire will be.

55
This number is the tire's aspect ratio, or its section height compared to its section width. In this case, the section (or sidewall) height is 55 percent of the section width. This number can be very indicative of a tire's purpose. Lower numbers, like 55 or less, mean a short sidewall for improved steering response and better overall handling.

R
The "R" refers to radial construction, which has been the industry standard in passenger car tires for more than twenty years. Prior to radial tires, most cars came with bias-ply tires which had a crude construction that made for poor handling. Bias-ply tires are still used for certain truck applications.

16
This is the rim diameter, in inches, for which the tire was sized. Pay particular attention to this number if you plan on upgrading your wheel size. If your wheel diameter changes, you'll have to purchase a new set of tires that match this new diameter.

89
A tire's load index is a measurement of how much weight each tire is designed to support. To find out what "89" means, it must be looked up on the official Maximum Load-Carrying Capacity Per Tire chart. In this case, 89 indicates a maximum weight of 1,260 pounds. Remember that this is per tire, which means you have to multiply by four to get the total capacity for a complete set of tires.

V
The speed rating is a measurement of what speed the tire is designed to run at for extended periods. A "V" speed rating signifies that this tire can be run safely at speeds of up to 149 mph for extended periods. Will it explode if it goes to 155? No, not immediately. But it might if it is run at that speed for several minutes.

Also if you change your tire from the OEM size it's a good idea to find out it's new RPM (Revs Per Mile) which can give you an idea if it will throw your speedometer off any.
I always use this site http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html just enter in the old tire information and then the new tire information. It's been pretty dead on for me during the past 7 years of using it and correcting my speedometer due to running smaller or larger tires.
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Re: Tires

Post by BoB/335 » Tue May 18, 2010 12:08 pm

ctrlraven wrote:
BoB/335 wrote:
BoB/335 wrote:Thanks Andy!!! I was all set to go for Pirelli P4's? Are they any better than the P6's???

What size Michelins? I don't think they make a P215/60/R17 in the Primacy.

I was just on a chart of sizes for the Primacy. They have nothing with a 60 in a 17"tire. What will a 55 do? I see P215/55/17 and P225/55/17. Is the middle number the rubber from the rim to the outside of the tire and how much smaller is that really?
This will explain it all for you.
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/howto/ ... ticle.html

Example: 205/55R 16 89V explained
205
The first number in this series refers to the tire's section width, or distance from sidewall edge to sidewall edge (in millimeters) when measured up and over the tire's tread. Generally speaking, the larger this number is, the taller and/or wider the tire will be.

55
This number is the tire's aspect ratio, or its section height compared to its section width. In this case, the section (or sidewall) height is 55 percent of the section width. This number can be very indicative of a tire's purpose. Lower numbers, like 55 or less, mean a short sidewall for improved steering response and better overall handling.

R
The "R" refers to radial construction, which has been the industry standard in passenger car tires for more than twenty years. Prior to radial tires, most cars came with bias-ply tires which had a crude construction that made for poor handling. Bias-ply tires are still used for certain truck applications.

16
This is the rim diameter, in inches, for which the tire was sized. Pay particular attention to this number if you plan on upgrading your wheel size. If your wheel diameter changes, you'll have to purchase a new set of tires that match this new diameter.

89
A tire's load index is a measurement of how much weight each tire is designed to support. To find out what "89" means, it must be looked up on the official Maximum Load-Carrying Capacity Per Tire chart. In this case, 89 indicates a maximum weight of 1,260 pounds. Remember that this is per tire, which means you have to multiply by four to get the total capacity for a complete set of tires.

V
The speed rating is a measurement of what speed the tire is designed to run at for extended periods. A "V" speed rating signifies that this tire can be run safely at speeds of up to 149 mph for extended periods. Will it explode if it goes to 155? No, not immediately. But it might if it is run at that speed for several minutes.

Also if you change your tire from the OEM size it's a good idea to find out it's new RPM (Revs Per Mile) which can give you an idea if it will throw your speedometer off any.
I always use this site http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html just enter in the old tire information and then the new tire information. It's been pretty dead on for me during the past 7 years of using it and correcting my speedometer due to running smaller or larger tires.

Thnaks for the charts and explanation.

Andy, What are you looking to put on the Montego?
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Re: Tires

Post by andysinnh » Tue May 18, 2010 10:41 pm

BoB/335 wrote:
Thnaks for the charts and explanation.

Andy, What are you looking to put on the Montego?
I've got 18" rims on the Montego, with stock 225-55R18 tires that are available in the Primacy. I am considering also going to a 225-60R18 in the same Primacy, as that's the size the Freestyle uses and they'll fit fine in the wheel wells of the Montego and just throw the speedo off just a tad - but the tires are a good 20 or more bucks cheaper than the 55 series.

In terms of tires for the 17" wheels, I was surprised the Primacy doesn't come in that size - but the 225-55R17 would be a good alternative as the overall diameter is pretty similar. There are some other good choices out there including the Michelin HydroEdge which do pretty well as long as you don't run them in the snow...

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Re: Tires

Post by BoB/335 » Wed May 19, 2010 7:15 am

I've been reading that the Hydro-Edge is a little noisy. I want a quiet, comfortable tire.
GoodYear has the Assurance Comfort Thread that is suppose to be very quiet and comfortable without giving up much handling. The Triple Tred gets very high ratings in reviews.
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Post by andysinnh » Wed May 19, 2010 9:19 am

BoB/335 wrote:I've been reading that the Hydro-Edge is a little noisy. I want a quiet, comfortable tire.
GoodYear has the Assurance Comfort Thread that is suppose to be very quiet and comfortable without giving up much handling. The Triple Tred gets very high ratings in reviews.
If you want quiet, the Comfort Tread is better - the Triple Tread is about as noisy as the Hydroedge. I ran a set of HydroEdge tires on a long-lost Aztek several years ago, and they weren't really noisy until it rained - when they were doing their water-pumping work - and they did well on the dry pavement also - but weren't good in the snow.

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Re: Tires

Post by Hecky50 » Fri May 21, 2010 1:09 pm

Andy, also try 235/50/18. Same overall size as stock (miata chart) sometime thay have closeouts @ Tirerack or Discount tire.
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Re: Tires

Post by rer21307 » Fri May 21, 2010 4:49 pm

Sams Club has Michelin X radial. I think it was a 225 60 17 at a good price. You may have to special order them. We have them on my wifes Accord. They have 70K on them and are the best tire I have ever had. CR rated them second if I remember right. Quiet, smooth and even wearing.
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Re: Tires

Post by tonyford » Fri May 28, 2010 8:40 pm

ctrlraven wrote:I have the same tires just 225/50-18 size, they have performed great so far in the first 4500 miles I've put on them.
The tire size is actually P225/55R-18. Not 50.

Take a look at Dunlop Signature Touring All-Seasons. A good tire at a reasonable price. Of course not as good as the Michelin Primacy MXV4's, but again, you get what you pay for.

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Post by kmohr3 » Fri May 28, 2010 9:27 pm

I 2nd that comment on the Dunlop signatures. I've got about 20,000 on mine. They are a nice quiet tire. It'll be about $600 out the door for a set of these
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Post by tonyford » Fri May 28, 2010 10:03 pm

kmohr3 wrote:I 2nd that comment on the Dunlop signatures. I've got about 20,000 on mine. They are a nice quiet tire. It'll be about $600 out the door for a set of these
Quite a coincidence, just this past week I got a quote from a local tire dealer here in New Jersey for this tire and the quote was $600 + tax. This price was for the tire, mounting and high speed balancing.

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