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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Webmaster » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:22 pm

You guys really need to read this thread (warning it's 14 pages long) but worth a read: http://www.myfordfreestyle.com/forums/v ... f=1&t=3306
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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by dwcopple » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:20 am

my ebay Urethane bushing came in the mail yesterday. It is a nice SOLID two piece unit with a bolt and washer included. It was $10.75 shipped. I will take a pic later today when I go back home and post it in here for you all to see.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:31 am

Are you using this urathane bushing inside of the old bushing, or by entirely pressing out the old bushing and it's original steel sleeve?

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by dwcopple » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:07 am

Blaine B. wrote:Are you using this urathane bushing inside of the old bushing, or by entirely pressing out the old bushing and it's original steel sleeve?
won't know until it is time to install it. It is 12*F here in MI right now. Gonna wait until spring or at least warmer temps.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:36 pm

I dont blame you.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:29 am

Here is an eBay auction for the bushing, which you can clearly see is removable WITH the outer sleeve not being a part of the mount itself.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Freestyle- ... 09&vxp=mtr

And they are also selling the complete mount with bushing for $123 which beats the other price of over $200 for the same thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Freestyle- ... 01&vxp=mtr

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Marty C. » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:42 pm

The bushing can be totally replaced with the following Engine Mount Bushing Dorman 917-037 from TheAutoParts.com. Paid about $55 delivered to the door. It comes with the mount, 3 well made bushing to remove and install the new bushing, instructions and an alignment tool. I did the job in under an hour without taking the bracket off the car. All the hardware and tools fit without removing any other parts. Don't try and press out the old bushing as the wall thickness is too thin. Cut the bushing with a fine hacksaw blade in 2 places about 90 degrees apart and collapse the shell with a cold chisel. The shell is made of soft steel. Don't forget to cut the flange in both places. The new bushing needs to be chamfered as it comes with a sharp leading edge. To press it in you'll need a 9 inch piece of 3/8 threaded rod with 2 nuts, washer and 2 pieces of 1/2 - 3/4 X 1 X 4 inch steel bars with clearance holes. I used milling machine hold down clamps. Align the new mount, use the proper bushings at each end and pull it into place...Done

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:00 am

Sounds like a much better repair rather than just stuffing another bushing inside of the old bushing!

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Tomcat » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:47 pm

Looks good. Was that installed on a 6-speed or CVT? The description I saw for that part number had "6-speed" in the description although I'm not sure is a difference.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Marty C. » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:58 pm

The bushing was for a 6 speed tranny. Don't know if there is a difference in the bushing but there will probably be a difference in the bracket. You'll need to do a little research on this or call "The AutoParts.com" They have number listed on their website.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:07 pm

I thought the bracket was bolted to the motor. Of course I haven't taken a good look at it yet.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Tomcat » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:12 pm

Thanks for the info. Definitely will consider the Dorman bushing next time.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Tomcat » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:19 pm

I tossed out my Volvo bushing for the Dorman mount tonight. Cutting out the old bushing was no problem. However, I don't have anything to use as a press so instead I heated the bracket with a torch and hammered the mount using the bushings that were provided (not that I'm endorsing this approach).

After I was done, I watched the motor while I had someone else shift between Reverse and Drive a few times. The Dorman mount is much stiffer and there is considerably less motor movement compared to the Volvo mount I had used previously. Thanks all for a great discussion thread.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Marty C. » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:58 pm

TomCat,
If you had a 2 jaw gear puller with arms long enough to span the bushing and collars and one piece of heavy metal, steel, brass aluminum, etc. you could have pulled it in easily instead of the process I used. This process is a little trickier as you'd need help holding everything in proper position to get the bushing started. But, your way worked too! Good going. :)

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Edsel II » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:55 pm

By the way, I did get a bushing from Energy Suspension to fiddle with. The diameter looks good but it will take some trimming. I'll mess with it and see how it works. But the new Dorman piece looks like the way to go!

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Tomcat » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:08 pm

Actually, I wasn't able to hammer it in completely (maybe a quarter inch to go) and later tried using my coil spring compressors with an impact wrench. Went in with no problem and looks great.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:35 am

Thanks to Marty C. for the private message and heads up! I ordered the Dorman mount on Amazon for $51.45 shipped (free super saver shipping). Although I don't need it immediately, it will be nice to have it around for when replacement becomes necessary.

They are also on eBay for a similar price I see.

Are the other motor mounts wearing out quickly for anyone? Just curious. I really haven't taken a look at them on my car.

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:44 pm

I received the Dorman kit from Amazon today. Here it is!

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by dwcopple » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:12 am

so what are the three rings for exactly?

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Re: New idea for the bad roll restrictor bushing

Post by Blaine B. » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:51 am

The largest ring is for supporting the mount and allowing the bushing to come through the mount when it is being pressed out. The medium ring is for pushing the bushing in (pushing on the side of the bushing with the flange) and the small ring is for pushing the bushing out.

Also, the orange device is for proper bushing alignment upon installation.

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