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Water pump quotes?

Post by HotHouseBoar » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:55 pm

Hey guys,

Recently I found out that my water pump on my 2013 interceptor is on its way out. This is confirmed by the loss of coolant with no leaks on the ground. Dealership quoted me $3400 for the repair and some shops will not attempt to do the job since it is so involved. Whats the best solution for this? Is it possible to DIY this?


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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by mmsstar » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:42 pm

Welcome, It is possible to DIY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCVeuRUaWHI

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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by Webmaster » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:46 pm

How far gone is it? It really depends, sometimes you just need to replace the engine. Other times you can get away with changing parts.
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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by HotHouseBoar » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:12 am

Webmaster wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:46 pm
How far gone is it? It really depends, sometimes you just need to replace the engine. Other times you can get away with changing parts.
It doesn't seem to be too far gone as my oil or coolant hasn't been mixing, or if very little. Nothing in the oil and coolant hasn't changed other than the loss of coolant over the course of driving the vehicle. The dealer didn't mention anything about replacing the engine but rather replacing the pump and all the timing chain parts etc while they do it. I'm still waiting for the exact list of what they're replacing since the car is getting its cats replaced under warranty.

I've seen a few videos with similar engines and one DIY for a Taurus on the forums, but not much detailed information about this issue. I'd like to DIY this since most shops in my area have never done this before and they are quoting me $2000. However they are still not sure what parts are needed and have never done it.

I've seen a parts list for a Ford Flex with a 3.5L engine, which I believe is the same as my interceptor (3.5L). Are these parts interchangeable?

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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by mmsstar » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:27 am

There may be a difference in the EB vs the N/A but other than than the 3.5 is the 3.5 no matter what it's in.

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Post by Webmaster » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:48 pm

Well that's good if there is no coolant in the oil, but perhaps the previous owner changed it just recently so it hasn't had time to mix yet?

You may be interested in perusing this thread before wrenching on anything also: https://www.fordflex.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15553
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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by HotHouseBoar » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:24 pm

mmsstar wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:27 am
There may be a difference in the EB vs the N/A but other than than the 3.5 is the 3.5 no matter what it's in.
Okay thank you for the confirmation.
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:48 pm
Well that's good if there is no coolant in the oil, but perhaps the previous owner changed it just recently so it hasn't had time to mix yet?

You may be interested in perusing this thread before wrenching on anything also: https://www.fordflex.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15553
Funny you mention that. I bought the car at a government auction with only 55k miles on it for cheap and it was missing the coolant hose to the expansion tank. However, there was still coolant in the block and I changed out the coolant there with no signs of oil in it. I did notice an oil leak between the timing cover and the engine, so I'm assuming they looked at the pump and decommissioned the car. I've put 5k miles since then and still not mixture of any kind thankfully.

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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by Webmaster » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:42 am

Oil in the coolant is less common and much less severe than coolant in the oil.
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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by billross » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:57 am

Keep in mind the PI cars have a 5yr/100,000 mile powertrain warranty, and the water pump is included in that warranty. So you'll need to find out if your car's in-service date was more than 5 years ago.
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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by HotHouseBoar » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:36 am

billross wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:57 am
Keep in mind the PI cars have a 5yr/100,000 mile powertrain warranty, and the water pump is included in that warranty. So you'll need to find out if your car's in-service date was more than 5 years ago.
Any idea where I can find out about my warranty? I'm assuming through the dealer? Though I doubt I'm within that 5 year period anymore. My interceptor was one of the first ones in the city fleet and early built 2013s based on the unit number.

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Re: Water pump quotes?

Post by billross » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:27 pm

You can find your car's month/year of build on the driver's door jamb tire pressure sticker. If the car was built less than five years ago, then obviously you're fine. Otherwise the dealer will have to look up the in-service date in their Oasis system. The warranty starts when the vehicle is first put in-service.
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